You Cannot Be Serious

00:01 You can't be serious, man. You cannot be serious! 00:05 And himself there, looking fresh, looking as bright as a button. 00:11 How are you? And is everything going well down there? I've taken a belting over the week, but how are you going? 00:19 Well, we've done this. 00:21 People know that you're... Where are you right now? Croatia. 00:25 I'm in Croatia in a place called Tregea, which is just down from a very big city called Split, which is just on and down the magnificent coastal road from Dubrovnik. 00:39 Well, that big stone wall behind you almost looks like you're in a jail or a castle. You've got a Pentridge look about it. 00:51 Well, every place you walk into in Europe was an old medieval town and it's got stone walls because they're 2,000, 3,000 years old. But no, this is the apartment we're in and it's very comfortable right in the middle of Tregea. 01:10 Because we've done the reverse, Sam, because we've done the reverse, normally I get up early in the morning and it's late evening for you. We've done the reverse late afternoon here, early morning for you. So just as a warning, I've got the wiggles on in the background. 01:27 and kids will be walking in the door very soon to go because school will be finished. They'll be going off to soccer training. Just so you know, just so you know. 01:41 Here's a little Cole. Say hello, Sam. Say hello. 01:50 I'm happy to say hello to Cole. Will he understand what I'm saying? No, he won't. There you go. I know you don't like kids. Hello, Cole, you beautiful sweetheart. How are you? 02:01 Sam, whatever you do, don't listen to Sam. 02:08 Yes. So I want to ask you this question. I'm going to spend one minute on this. Why do you do podcasts? 02:18 Why do I do a podcast? 02:20 You used to do one and then you do it with me. I've been doing this for 20 years. Why is everyone doing podcasts? 02:29 It's a good question because I remember when I originally did it, when I originally did my own, so I was doing it, you know, The Truth Hurts, it was, you know what, it was probably more because there were so many things being said and et cetera, et cetera. So you had a voice to negate different things. So it was more to have a voice, basically. Exactly, Doug. 03:01 Exactly. Yeah. People talk about the amount of people that have said that, you know, you have... 03:10 relevant syndrome. Well, they don't say that so much. I don't get it. But people, it has been the odd thing that's been said. Anyone that's a bit older like yourself or me or anyone for that matter, they say it's all about being relevant. 03:26 I can assure you I don't do the podcast to remain relevant. 03:30 Unfortunately, the people out in the the mainstream media keep you relevant and keep me relevant because they're the ones that talk about us all the time. 03:44 Absolutely. I've just mentioned this. I've just done a preamble to us coming on because I don't want to get you involved in what happened last week anymore than you were involved. And that is exactly what I said. You've got to push back on stupid people. And The slagging I took, I was called a rapist. I was called a pedophile. I was likened to Germaine Greer, who said rape was just rough sex. 04:26 I was likened to that, what I said. And a man called Ryan, I've mentioned this, a man called Ryan, whose name I couldn't pronounce. He said, I better ring him before this goes to air. This is last week, because I'll tell people of your coke addiction and I'll mention and I'll name your drug dealer. your dealer and you are a pig and I thought Ryan has obviously thought he was texting his mother and he's texted me by mistake so I thought that's where it's got to it's gone to a whole new level and so that's exactly why I do a podcast so that you push back on the irrelevant, stupid, ignorant people who squawk and screech and scream about things that they take out of context. 05:14 And if you don't have a voice to it, people just believe it. 05:18 I still have my, Sam, and without, you know, you've obviously addressed what you wanted to address about last week. 05:31 The other thing that I find amusing... You better grab him, sweetie. The other thing that I find amusing is that people have to put... 05:43 my name to stories or events that are happening now to make whatever's happened now a bigger story. 05:53 So if anything happens in the football world, if anything happens off the ground, whether it be Lockie Neal, you know, doing what he did, somehow the reference has got to go back to me. It doesn't go to Gary Lyon or any other person that's ever swum outside the flags. But for whatever reason, it goes back to me. If something happens, it goes back to me from 20 years ago. Something else happens, it goes back to me just to make the story bigger than what it is. So it doesn't affect me, although it does affect the little one that you saw on camera before in coal. 06:33 So when people bring those things up because they haven't the intelligence nor the hardworking will to go out and actually find a real story rather than just hang their hat on something that happened 20, 25 years ago, or just hang it onto a name that gets more clicks than someone else. And that's, you know, that's called laziness. It's called gutter journalism. 07:00 But they, and guess what? And the ramifications for them are nothing, yet they can slander you, yet they slander people every single day. 07:13 I made this point exactly, Doc. I said, you said, oh, I wouldn't go on talking about this too much last week because you don't know the facts. And I said, well, I was only asking you because I'm on the other side of the world. And they gave you a backhanded compliment saying you had to actually say to me, oh, I don't know what you're talking about. And then they went on to mention your misdemeanors and indiscretions. I thought you couldn't win. 07:41 No, you can't make a mistake and get better in life, can you? 07:48 I tell you what, they certainly don't. But anyway, move on, move on. 07:52 Yes, it sounds like we're feeling sorry for ourselves. We're not. We're just pointing out the pomposity of pieces of poo. 08:02 Oh, there's plenty of those. There's plenty of those. And you know what? And I've said this many times. I'll finish on this note. And I've said this many times. And Tess is the one that teaches this very, very well. And that is... Those who sit there and throw the stones and judge like they do and continue to, for whatever reason, want to make other people the villain, generally those are the people that have got most to hide. And wouldn't you love to know what's hidden behind some of those doors? 08:36 I do know some of the things that are hidden behind those doors, but I don't delve to the gutter journalism or the sloth that they are. and bring up some of the things that, well, certainly are very well known, but not to the public, because that's the industry they work in, and it hasn't been made public. But I tell you what, there's plenty of people with a lot of ghosts... 09:03 Now you, so we'll push on, but you wait until this conversation we've just had gets misinterpreted about us whinging and crying over what they do to us. Now you wait until this gets chopped up. 09:15 No, I know. I wasn't whinging. I cocked it on the chin. 09:21 I know you weren't, Doug. 09:22 I've cocked it on the chin for 35 years, as you have. A bit longer. 09:26 Right, now. Now. So... 09:31 I see, tell me, I'm on the other side of the planet. Just tell me. I see that the awful, the awful are going to play games in front of the AFL in a couple of the Geelong games. Is that correct? 09:45 No, they, and don't call it, we don't call it the awful. The AFL women's has started. They are playing double headers. They're playing double headers before the men's, games, a bit like back in the day where you had the VFL teams before the main game. I like it. I think it's fantastic. I think it gives the opportunity for those who don't go to the AFL women's games an opportunity to see them improve before they watch their particular team play in the men's. 10:25 I really enjoy it. I really think it's a great move by the AFL women to do that. 10:33 We are in vehement agreement, Duck. I think the awful playing in front of the AFL is terrific. And they might show the AFL how the game should be played without freaking round down the back line and making it unwatchable because the women go... In hard and tough and notwithstanding their skill level, it is entertaining and at least it'll stop the Athol from warming up on the ground before the game because we'll have the awful playing in front of them and I think it's great. 11:11 We both agree on that, which is good. We don't agree on everything. We agree on that. I don't agree with you calling it the awful. But anyway. 11:20 Oh, Doug, please. Please, Doug. 11:23 You've done it all along. You haven't changed. You've done it all along. It's a joke. The big topic here, which everyone's talking about, Sam, and it all revolves around concussion, secret contracts being done outside of the... 11:41 playing contract that the AFL has to sign off on. Now there's talk the AFL knew about. So that is what's leading the news over here. Jay Clark, a man that you didn't know that he was the chief football writer for the Herald Sun. Well, he's broken this story and we are in the eye of the storm. I still think there's more to come out. This is going to bubble along. The AFL have put out a... 12:10 A warning, if you want to put it like that, if anyone else, if any other club has done something similar to this, that they want that club to come forward. If they come forward, I assume that the penalty will be less. but they want anyone that has done anything of the sort to come forward. So the AFL are under all sorts of scrutiny, as is the Geelong Footy Club, for allowing or putting this in place. 12:46 And then there's some people, Sam, that say, well, the player knew what he was signing. 12:51 As we always know, the truth generally lies somewhere in between. I think that eventually there will be some sort of agreement, I think, with players and the club and the AFL in regards to playing a game that's a contact sport. 13:07 Tell me if I've got this right and you'll say no, you're completely wrong. 13:14 Is this just a way that the huge compensation that the insurance company might have to pay about all the concussion cases if a player signs a waiver saying he understands the risks of playing contact sport and as a result of weighing them up I'm still going to sign a contract and I'm not going to sue anyone unless I'm maliciously punched or outside the guidelines of what is fair and reasonable in contact sport. 13:47 Is that what this is about, do you think? 13:50 Well, eventually it's going to have to meet somewhere. So the AFL are never going to allow, if you go into a concussion protocol or you've had numerous concussions, you're going to have to pass. 14:06 numerous tests to be allowed to continue to play the game. So there are some players that have got to that point, they've gone through a series of tests, and the AFL have said, along with obviously experts, doctors, neurosurgeons, etc., you should not play the game again and you won't be given a contract. For those who have had a few, I guess, but they pass those protocols, then in time will that player be able to sign a separate document that the AFL agrees to that does allow them to take ownership upon themselves to continue to play. 14:51 Now, what we also have to remember in all of that is we do have to protect players from themselves as well because players will play. They will play on no matter what, especially when it's their livelihood. So this has got a lot to play out just yet. 15:07 Well, let's go right back to the start. Say you, say you, Doug. I can speak to Cole if you like, or I can speak to anyone else who's listening. He's left. Everyone's left. Say you, say you were a recruit coming to North Melbourne, hadn't played an AFL game, and they said to you, Wayne, we want to pay you a hell of a lot of money because we think you're a star or will be. But do you understand the sport you're going to play? It's a contact sport. 15:39 Would you sign an agreement saying that if you get concussion, you won't sue us because you know the risks? 15:48 Is that where it's going to get to? 15:52 Provision-based contracts for players, whether they've played or not? 15:58 We're all guessing, but that may very well end up there at some point. 16:08 The AFL, irrespective of that, the AFL and all the clubs respectively would never and will never obviously sign one of those documents if there is any doubt that the player could seriously... 16:29 have repercussions after they finish playing now nobody knows nobody knows that exact science yet anyway but the the the fact is you would have to pass even if you did sign that you would have to pass a series of tests to say that you are not in any serious danger at that point in time to sign that to sign that paper now 16:54 Now, my question to you, my question to you, Duck, is, and you might know the answer, like you didn't know many of the answers of the topic we were discussing last week, quite rightly so, you might know the answer to this. But... 17:11 What was the question I was going to ask you? How did Jay Clark, is that his name? Jay Clark? 17:18 Yeah, Jay Clark. 17:21 You said he broke the story. Where did he get the information from? 17:25 Yeah, it's well... Someone leaked it. Well, journalists, good ones or bad ones, always don't reveal their source, as they say, Sam. So where he got it from... 17:40 I'm not too sure, but it certainly hasn't come from the player nor the club. But there was obviously enough... Of course it has. It's come from one of those. How else can they... Well, it had to have, didn't it? The lawyer... Sam, I'm not into gossip, but I think there are other deals in and around concussion that are yet to break. I think there's more stories in and around the AFL, obviously, the game that we both love and play. 18:18 There are more stories in and around concussion that involve both the AFL and football clubs, and it will come out as this has come out and other things will come out. I think, like I said, we're in the eye of the storm, and I think there's more to be played out. 18:36 with all of this. 18:38 Yeah, so either the player or his family or the legal team or the club or the people who sat in on the meeting, one of those people has leaked that to the media and that would be the bigger investigation is how confidential our meetings that we have with our players and just who is leaking them. I think that would be as big a story as the content. 19:05 Well, apparently, you know, the plan managers, et cetera, et cetera, didn't even know about this deal, which is why it was so wrong because some people knew about it and some people didn't. So if it was not being... Well, yeah, it was just... We'll put it this way. The fact that they got them to sign a side deal without letting key people know just goes to show you that it wasn't done in the right manner. 19:35 Yes. Now, Doug, so... Right. So... 19:42 Only just as the snippets I get on the social media over here in Croatia, it says the finals debacle has rebounded on the AFL for having a top 10 when conceivably... The side that's finished 10th, can you believe it? Carlton could go on and win the premiership. That has been described as not in how it was meant to work or is that completely incorrect? 20:18 The experts would say that if you finish this year, because of the wildcard games, you finish anywhere from seventh down to tenth, there is no possible way. They're saying almost impossible to win the premiership. Well, people used to say that about... 20:37 the bottom four of the eight. The Adelaide Crows won it from fifth back in 97-98. We had the Western Bulldogs in 16 that won it from outside the top four. So there's no difference. The difference is, Sam, that the wild card game is the week after the last home and away game. So the other six teams get the week off. 21:02 So they're saying that not having the week off... 21:07 is a massive disadvantage. And you can't win that many games in a row to go on and win the grand final. I beg to differ. I think... Of course. I've always been a believer of this, as you would being a sports person. And Sue would believe the same thing. Sports man. And that is... Man. And that is... Well, you're a man. That is... A sports man, I am. That is, we think that if we're in the finals, we can win it. And anyone that finishes in the top 10 will think they can win it, and it may very well become. 21:41 So I'll go the other tact from what you just said then. I think that the AFL, who did cop some criticism about... 21:51 this game and said, oh, just call it a final 10 wildcard game. That's exactly what it is. But in doing so, they've allowed a team like Carlton, who were 1-8 to come home like they have and have won 10 of the last 12, like unbelievable, unbelievable effort. So for them to make this and the wave of excitement around them playing finals footy. And it may very well be, can you believe it, in one of those wildcard games, can you believe it? 22:26 It could be Carlton Collingwood. 22:31 Imagine... That is... 22:36 So, Duck, the final 10 is settled. It won't change. It is written in stone. No, it's not settled. 22:44 What? No, it's not settled yet. No, it's not settled yet. 22:48 Why isn't it? Well, Carlton are 10th and they're two games clear. 22:54 No, they're not. 22:55 They're not two games clear in 10th. Aren't they? No, no, no, no. They're in the top 10. 23:03 Other teams, if they drop the last two games, they may very well be guaranteed now, Sam, but there's still a little bit to play out. If teams lose, other teams win, it can still change. 23:16 It's not settled just yet. Just a minute, Doug. All right. Hang on a minute. All right-o. So Carlton are 44 points and they're in the 10 and St Kilda are 36. So they're two games out of the 10, St Kilda. 23:36 Yep. Aren't they? 23:37 Yes. Well, the final 10 is settled. 23:41 Two games to go. So Carlton lose two games. All right-o. 23:46 But it looks like it's settled, yes. 23:52 Of course, we did this last week. Carlton played St Kilda. They played the Western Bulldogs in Fremantle. 24:00 And St Kilda played... 24:07 and so do the Giants and so do North Melbourne, they have to win both their games in order to knock them out on percentage. I would say it's settled. So if you're scoffing at the fact saying it wasn't settled, I reckon it is. Well, mathematically it's not. 24:27 No, it's not. It's not. So, Duck, if I had one wish beside the obvious, I like to see Geelong win, obviously, and you like to see North Melbourne or the Crows or anything. 24:39 If I had one wish, it would be that Carlton goes through and win the grand final. That would be absolutely the greatest story, sporting story, probably in world sport. 24:53 It'd be the biggest... 24:57 comeback that our game, I think, well, certainly in my time, I don't know what's happened back in the early 1900s, et cetera, et cetera, but certainly in my time, it would be the biggest comeback in the history of the AFL. 25:17 Well, I was around in the early 1900s and I can tell you this is bigger than anything ever was back in the early 1900s, Duck. I was around then. 25:27 That's a joke. You know what's funny about it? A lot of people, Josh Fraser and Carlton and the way they play and the fact that where they were, it's almost like because you either love Carlton or hate Carlton and all of a sudden people are... 25:46 riding this wave of excitement about the Blues. So it's fascinating stuff. And to be honest, the AFL would be loving it because the Blues, I'm seeing people walk around the streets with their Carlton Guernseys on and their hats on. They're proud again. 26:05 And not a skerrick of humour came across your face when I said I was around in the 1900s and I know that this would be the biggest. 26:13 Because I know you were. 26:15 Yeah, well done, Duck. Now, so this is a bigger scandal than people are making out. A scandal. This is a bigger controversy. 26:28 I know we've covered this about the AFL getting the shits about sides resting their players and telling telling sides who they can pick and who they can't pick because they want to take their side whoever is resting their players into the finals with the best possible chance of winning how can the AFL and it's all predicated on betting and we're told betting which is legal and drinking alcohol is legal and smoking is legal snorting coke is not legal but taking drugs is not legal but if you can legally If this is wrecking households betting, the AFL are hitching their wagon to giant betting agencies who seem to be wagging the tail of the dog. 27:21 Well... 27:23 You're not, everything you said there is spot on. 27:28 The AFL are involved in every single football show, Sam has a betting agency link to it. If you are going to have a bet though, go with Bet Deluxe or Surge. 27:42 And bet responsibly, Doug. Don't keep saying that. 27:44 I gamble responsibly, but definitely bet deluxe, which is a magnificent app as Surge. 27:54 But do it responsibly. 27:59 Are the boys from MG Plasterers, are they part of Betting Deluxe? No, no, no. They're Plasterers actually. 28:07 I'm glad you bought that. I'm glad you remembered Matty and Marty. 28:12 15 weeks to remember. 28:15 I said MG. 28:16 I didn't say their names. They're names. MG Plasters. No, you're right. And I remember your mate, Caro, a couple of years ago, might have been a couple of years ago or a year ago, who sat there on her footy show, whatever show she's on, and oh boy, was she critical of the AFL and betting agencies. And then the first two ads that came up after she said it were betting agency ads on the very show that she sits on. So, you know, it's all... 28:48 There's hypocritical behaviours everywhere, Samuel. And what works for one, you know, doesn't work for one. There are some AFL clubs that haven't aligned themselves with any betting agency. Then there's those that have. There's some that have pokies and others that don't. So, you know, I mean... 29:14 At the end of the day, take responsibility for what you do. 29:19 That's exactly right. So I think Ralph, from Ralph's Meats at the South Melbourne Market, I think he bets deluxe. He does. 29:28 Yes, he does. He puts a chop on every week. 29:38 So Geelong, so when Colin Carter removed the poker machines from Geelong and everyone, you know, the politically correct community we live in, poker machines are still legal. You can go and put your money in them. Who is running the world and telling you how to live? And the AFL seem to be actually on one hand doing it, on the other hand, turning a blind eye to the fact that they say and everyone says is ruining the community. 30:07 I think if you put your... Yeah, money speaks very loudly, Samuel. And if you're being paid a lot of money, then generally those things get swept under the carpet. 30:29 Now, please, if you have any more on the AFL or football or sport, let me know. Just over here, they have moved from Dubai to France because of the conflict going on in the Middle East. The eGames, I don't know if you're familiar with the eGames, which is a huge online game system played between 200 countries and the prize money is $75 million dollars. 31:02 to play sides or boxing matches on computers against competitors across the world could be the next you could play a game of football between Carlton and Collingwood on a computer and no one would get concussion because it's just on a screen and it is absolutely huge over here and the first World seminar of these games is about to take place in Paris. 31:32 World Cup. It's called $75 million in prize money. Maybe the next new thing that actually people won't go to the football anymore. They'll just sit home and watch it played on computers. What particular sport is that on the E-game, Sam? 31:49 Is that soccer? What is it? It's 200 games. 31:53 There's 200 different things you can play, whether it be combat, boxing, martial arts, car racing, soccer, football, tennis. There's a whole parameter of people who specialize in playing each other. And it is huge. And it's with AI and then DeLon Musk and that next new level of how all this works, which I have no idea how it works. 32:18 So what we're encouraging then, what we're encouraging and this is, so having young kids now and we're trying to get them off technology, off games, out in the ovals, kicking the ball, being active, et cetera, et cetera, just driving more kids back in front of a screen. 32:36 Spot on, Duck, the hypocrisy of this is not lost on you or me. And we're just saying this about the betting. We're saying, oh, betting, bet responsibly. But yet the AFL and the super, not the super, what's it called? 32:55 The betting thing on the football, the super... 32:59 Super coach. Super coach. They're encouraging people to bet and yet saying it's bad for society and bet responsibly. You cannot get more hypocrisy. That is the definition of hypocrisy. 33:14 I agree. I agree. 33:18 Now, the other thing I mentioned last week, which has taken... 33:23 I'll tell you, I've had a lot of comments about it, and they said thanks for bringing it up, but I said I didn't really bring it up. I was alerted to it by the wife of a very prominent ex-footballer who I take notice of. She said that the kids are being groomed in schools, underage, like from four... 33:47 10 from not even teenagers there it is rampant in the schools and I was watching television over here in Italy before we came to Dubrovnik to Croatia and it is starting here it is huge that the teachers are touching up and grooming young kids unbeknownst to the parents who have suddenly realized this have gone to the police and they've been questioning five and six-year-old kids eight and nine times over in committees and traumatizing the kids even more trying to find the facts It is happening and it's probably happening in Australia. 34:31 That comes back to having the right checks and people having to go through a process to be in those positions, whether it be the coach of a sports team, whether it be whatever it may be. But I can assure you that, and I guess us parents are... 34:50 sometimes they'll ask people to know. 34:53 But you put your faith in the systems that are in place that get voted into those positions. So you would hope that the people hiring the people that are in those positions do a thorough uh examination of them so i i i don't know i don't know where you're reading that i i haven't heard i think i said this to you last week it hasn't been something that has been in the news here or certainly that i haven't read about it but like i said here last week mate i don't i don't watch much of the news uh because it's all negative and it's generally warped one way or the other 35:38 Well, but that's fine, but that's just a pipe dream to say the people you hope that you put your faith in, the people you put your faith in or parents people. 35:49 You can't walk around being pessimistic about everything in life. Thank you, Daddy. Hello, beautiful boy. Can't you? Oh, there you go. Say g'day to Sam. 35:58 Hi, g'day, Sam. 36:01 That was Carter. He just walked in from school. 36:03 Carter, how are you, my man? 36:07 Good on you, mate. 36:08 A duck. You'll get a quick laugh. This is little Harry. That's Tony's... 36:14 Sorry, mate. That's Tony's nephew. 36:18 See you, mate. Pop off now. 36:20 Fantastic. 36:21 Why don't you get the rest of the street in? 36:25 That was Mike's grandson. 36:27 Get the rest of the street in. Open your front door and see who's out on the footpath. 36:31 That's Mike's grandson. You worked with Mike. 36:36 They're going to soccer training, the boys. 36:40 All right, well, we'll wrap this up. So, Duck, I'm just saying to you, don't be naive, Duck. 36:46 This is happening. You know what? 36:50 I'll look it up, Sam. I'll do a bit of reading. 36:54 Don't put your faith in the people who are charged with looking after the youth, because they're complicit in it, and they're corrupt, and they're dishonest, and it's huge in Europe, and it's happening in Australia. 37:06 It has happened in Australia, and Craig Cole alerted me to this two years ago, and don't put your head in the sand, because just when you think you know everything about it, it'll bite you on the ass, and you'll think, fuck, I didn't realize this was going on, but it is. 37:24 I'm sure the people that have been affected by it, Sam, appreciate you bringing it up. Are we going to do the tips quickly? 37:31 Yes, I'm just getting Sue to do it now. Here we go, here we go. I don't think we went too well last week, Doug. No, I think... We didn't go too well last week. 37:41 Right, okay. 37:44 No, we didn't go too well. So here's a chance to redeem yourself. Yep. 37:52 The Dockers versus the Crows. 37:55 I'm going to go with the Dockers. 37:59 It's at home in Perth. 38:04 Richmond versus St Kilda. I'm going to go with the Saints. The Saints for me. 38:15 One of those ridiculous names after the stadium mentioned. 38:19 North Melbourne versus Geelong. 38:23 I think the Cats might be a little bit too strong. They've got finals to look forward to, so the Cats. 38:30 Brisbane Lions versus the Gold Coast. 38:34 Oh, I said, didn't I tell you the Brisbane Lions, Sam? 38:38 I was right about them, wasn't I? Everyone jumped off. Brisbane Lions, Sam. 38:44 You're right about a lot of things, Duck. And they're playing at a stadium I've never heard of, even in this mixed-up word process salad that they put after the games. It's being played at Yagatuggarungbarul Stadium. Hawthorne and Collingwood. 39:04 The Hawks for me. 39:07 I think they'll be too strong. They got beaten soundly last week. They'll bounce back. 39:15 Well, that's a good bit of logic. 39:17 Yeah, well, they're a better team than what they played last week, and I think they're better than Colingwood. 39:24 They got absolutely slaughtered, didn't they? Yeah, by Brisbane. 39:30 Yeah. Port Adelaide and Melbourne. 39:34 Melbourne. 39:37 Melbourne. 39:38 Yep, Melbourne. 39:40 Giants, Giants and the Eagles. 39:44 Ooh. The Giants. The Giants. 39:50 I think they need to win. 39:56 Now, probably the most pivotal game played this year. Yes. I hope you're playing. Did you hear what I said? Yeah, pivotal. 40:09 The most pivotal game played this year is... 40:15 Ninth playing 10th. Western Bulldogs playing Carlton. 40:19 Oh, you know what? 40:20 I'm going to go with the Blues. I'm going to ride the wave and I'm going to go with Carlton. They're playing beautiful football. Bulldogs. Bulldogs are hard to beat, but I just think Carlton. 40:34 And finally, Duck, if you are ever going to have a bet, bet responsibly, but why don't you go down and get a second mortgage on your house and put it on the Sydney Swans to beat Essendon? 40:46 Yes, I'll definitely be going to Sydney Swans, but don't do that. 40:51 But if you do, do it with the bet deluxe or surge and do it responsibly. 40:58 I would put half a million on the Swans to beat Essendon. 41:01 Yeah, half a million, half a million, yeah. 41:06 Duck, as always, very nice to speak to you and all your family and all your friends. Bring the street in next week. We can have a sort of a round table conference with everyone in the street. 41:19 Thank you, Sam. Ask them do they realise their kids are being touched up in school. 41:24 Less controversial week from you. Thank you.